tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post113068985683830111..comments2024-03-21T20:10:28.943+08:00Comments on EDUCATION IN MALAYSIA: International Islamic University: Tudung or Not To Don?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-86264740994452507082012-02-22T16:39:18.578+08:002012-02-22T16:39:18.578+08:00To everyone who rants about the tudung issue:
I a...To everyone who rants about the tudung issue:<br /><br />I am a woman who dons a tudung, and in accordance to the federal constitution, in contradictory I believe that I would agree with some people's lamenting on how unjust the university policy was towards non-Muslims who might find wearing the scarf as somehow intimidating their belief.<br /><br />I think even according the true teachings of Islam, the non-Muslims aren't forced to wear it, despite the Islamic nature of the educational institution.<br /><br />However, as the writer remarked that he personally disagreed with Singaporean policy of banning tudungs among Muslims as minority in the country, I will clearly put my stance, too. The Government shall not, by any chance, violate their own policy of valuing freedom, individual liberty and human rights.<br /><br />One might wonder how dare I say such thing. Well, partly because of my personal encounter with some intolerant, ignorant and snobbish Singaporeans that wrinkle their noses when they see me dressing modestly (not even the Arabic tent-sized clothing, just a decent-looking pair of jeans and long-sleeve shirt) with a tudung, covering my hair. A woman even shot a glare on me, expressing her perhaps hatred on Malays who wear tudung. Little did she know that I'm not even a Malay; I am a Dusun from Sabah, of the same ethnicity with the devout Christian, Datuk Dr Maximus Ongkili.<br /><br />In another occassion, living in a Chinese-based town Kuching, Sarawak posed another tougher challenge - as these young students do not mix with a person with such appearance as mine. They can't tolerate seeing girls that don't sport skimpy skirts or boxer shorts and sleeveless, cleavage-exposing tops to class.<br /><br />I would like to offer a sincere apology to those who are slightly offended by my comment. But I swear these are my real encounters of the reality. And I wonder how unfair some people can be on some innocent people just because of political things in debate.<br /><br />I just wish Malaysians can accept one another, and not blinded by preconceived notions that they're much superior than the others in terms of civilisation, intelligence and appearance. Understand what 'Don't judge the book by its cover' means?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-75541546062843795952012-02-22T16:38:42.835+08:002012-02-22T16:38:42.835+08:00To everyone who rants about the tudung issue:
I a...To everyone who rants about the tudung issue:<br /><br />I am a woman who dons a tudung, and in accordance to the federal constitution, in contradictory I believe that I would agree with some people's lamenting on how unjust the university policy was towards non-Muslims who might find wearing the scarf as somehow intimidating their belief.<br /><br />I think even according the true teachings of Islam, the non-Muslims aren't forced to wear it, despite the Islamic nature of the educational institution.<br /><br />However, as the writer remarked that he personally disagreed with Singaporean policy of banning tudungs among Muslims as minority in the country, I will clearly put my stance, too. The Government shall not, by any chance, violate their own policy of valuing freedom, individual liberty and human rights.<br /><br />One might wonder how dare I say such thing. Well, partly because of my personal encounter with some intolerant, ignorant and snobbish Singaporeans that wrinkle their noses when they see me dressing modestly (not even the Arabic tent-sized clothing, just a decent-looking pair of jeans and long-sleeve shirt) with a tudung, covering my hair. A woman even shot a glare on me, expressing her perhaps hatred on Malays who wear tudung. Little did she know that I'm not even a Malay; I am a Dusun from Sabah, of the same ethnicity with the devout Christian, Datuk Dr Maximus Ongkili.<br /><br />In another occassion, living in a Chinese-based town Kuching, Sarawak posed another tougher challenge - as these young students do not mix with a person with such appearance as mine. They can't tolerate seeing girls that don't sport skimpy skirts or boxer shorts and sleeveless, cleavage-exposing tops to class.<br /><br />I would like to offer a sincere apology to those who are slightly offended by my comment. But I swear these are my real encounters of the reality. And I wonder how unfair some people can be on some innocent people just because of political things in debate.<br /><br />I just wish Malaysians can accept one another, and not blinded by preconceived notions that they're much superior than the others in terms of civilisation, intelligence and appearance. Understand what 'Don't judge the book by its cover' means?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-3684550566117735772007-08-22T15:31:00.000+08:002007-08-22T15:31:00.000+08:00My sister went to IIUM and she graduated in 2000 a...My sister went to IIUM and she graduated in 2000 and I can tell you one thing, the admin is totally ridiculous and is not even tolerant.<BR/><BR/>I remembered visiting my sister with my aunt and we both have to cover our hair with scarf, and I was only 7 at that time. My aunt who wear shorts obviously can't find anything to wear at that instant and so she settled for a rain coat in order to enter the campus. I think all of these requirements are ridiculous.People wear head scarf if they want to. Yes it is required by Quran but I always believe that if you want to wear then you should be sincere.<BR/><BR/>Having said that, my father is a very religious person but he never imposed us to wear anything that we don't want. He always said we should wear it when we ready and it's true. I start wearing head scarf now because I wanted not because of some ridiculous school requirements.<BR/><BR/>Heck we're in college,we should have some freedom!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-1131953557622600972005-11-14T15:32:00.000+08:002005-11-14T15:32:00.000+08:00hmm, frankly, i don't really see much of an issue ...hmm, frankly, i don't really see much of an issue if the tudung during convocation is part of the uniform. i mean, why wear the robes, or cloak etc? it's hardly reflective of our everyday clothing, but we don't object to wearing the robes and mortar board for the occasion. the whole entire outfit is uncomfortable anyway, so what's another piece of cloth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-1131770392712809562005-11-12T12:39:00.000+08:002005-11-12T12:39:00.000+08:00One could of course view the 'tudung' as part of t...One could of course view the 'tudung' as part of the convocation uniform regardless what it's supposed to stand for, couldn't one?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-1131558308141536762005-11-10T01:45:00.000+08:002005-11-10T01:45:00.000+08:00so Tony & Kian Ming, how's da gal now, did she gra...so Tony & Kian Ming, how's da gal now, did she graduated. I really hope u guyz can follow up da story. U guyz are doing a great job, but it'll be sad to see this issued died out without being resolved.<BR/><BR/>I dunno about the rest of da guyz, but personally i'm sick of Msian attitude of bringing an issue up, discuss it but not resolved. This happens so often to the "politician" in tis country. Sickening! It's time common ppl like us taking the action. No hope of waiting for those ppl to act to us.<BR/><BR/>I really hope da gal can graduted without bowing to IIU demand. Go gal!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-1131199537885762212005-11-05T22:05:00.000+08:002005-11-05T22:05:00.000+08:00hi rational thinker, and whoever read this:in some...hi rational thinker, and whoever read this:<BR/>in some way u r right, but it doesn't render critic sacarstically valid under the name of "comment".Just for u guys to know how things going there, actually.IIUM used to imposed non-Muslim gal to wear tudung, but after some fighting,(of cos its not ec)they eventually approved a scarf,rather than tudung.everythings fine, right?but...can u imagine some PROF can simply stop a non-Muslim, questioning her(who actually wore exactly how they told to):why u r not covering this, n not covering that?in front of whole class?<BR/>or some DR., told the female student that i feel like want to rape u, because of ur wearing!!!<BR/>those cases happened, on those who wearing in proper attire,legally, even with a scarf,long sleeve, long blouse,long skirt.so, what do u think?<BR/>even our lady, Miss Foo, when she went back to Uni,graduated, as a visitor, a lecturer yelled at her, ordered her to put on the scarf!<BR/>even some foreigner student,i met one from China, he claimed that he want to bring the matters to IIUM's authority simply because he think that its ridiculous for IIUM to allow the non-Muslim wearing scarf,instead of tudung.<BR/>well, i post the facts, and u, think of it.tolerance,is that the right word?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-1131142381588807322005-11-05T06:13:00.000+08:002005-11-05T06:13:00.000+08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.WYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16149881615500824835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-1131142361374465692005-11-05T06:12:00.000+08:002005-11-05T06:12:00.000+08:00hi lulu. If the idea of commenting only if we have...hi lulu. <BR/><BR/>If the idea of commenting only if we have life experience regarding the matter..then none of us should be talking about UM coz we haven't been studying there. None of us should talk about prime minister coz we are not him. <BR/><BR/>Of coz it is not fair to force people to don a tudung everyday, but ain't we talking about the graduation ceremony alone. <BR/><BR/>Oh by the way, surely i have no idea how does it feel to be a girl with a tudung (i am a guy too), but i am sure such indifference experience do allowed both you and me to have a more rational look at it - rather than talkign purely based on emotion.WYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16149881615500824835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-1131036621504371972005-11-04T00:50:00.000+08:002005-11-04T00:50:00.000+08:00words for rational thinker:i m a guy, actualy, so ...words for rational thinker:<BR/>i m a guy, actualy, so i m not aggressive in commenting it.i get ur point, its realy rational.<BR/>But pls, do consider others feeling, be empathy, sometime things not as what we seen, jz bcos u were not in the situation, u won't able to know how exactly it feel.<BR/>i used to reckon it thoroughly, initially i thought exactly like wat u did:<BR/>ok...its not good wearing i tudung, but wat so big, right?there r so many stuff tat require our priority.....sort of...<BR/><BR/>BUT, put urself in her shoe, if u were guy, can u really bear tat if ppl keep inflicting u wearing songkok to class EVERY SINGLE DAY,FOR 4 YRS?tell all of us, how would u feel then?and mind u, putting a tudung is even worse than songkok,jz cover urself for hours, n feel it.<BR/><BR/>i believe everything must be kept in balance, over tolerance is not tolerance, there's a time for tat, n there's a time to remind other tat its our limit, pls stop here, its wat we suppose to do in real life.unless n until u know exactly how the whole things going, DO NOT COMMENT IN FAVOUR OF ANY PARTY,its not fair, n definitely not rational.<BR/>the main point is, we don critic IIU, neither the religion, indeed there's lot n lot of precious we can deduce from it, but ,no compel pls.tat would be fair, within certain circumscribe(pakaian sopan)don u agree?<BR/>my intention is not to offend any ppl, jz in case it does, i apologize for tat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-1130931841212391232005-11-02T19:44:00.000+08:002005-11-02T19:44:00.000+08:00IIU is already considered one of the most 'liberal...IIU is already considered one of the most 'liberal' universities in Malaysia compared to many other public unversities. Despite its draconian tudung ruling and some other general "decency" rulings..IIU is actually IS one of the best academic universities in Malaysia. <BR/><BR/>Compared to many universities' requirement for its students to wear formal attire or wear batik ..or in comparison with UTAR requirements to wear the black graduation gown (ala western's country).. i don't see how tudung can be such a big issue. <BR/><BR/>My point is..at the end of the day..there are so many important things on a larger scale. The lady made a point by skipping her convo. Great. The uni should just abolish such draconian ruling. However, before we all go and hentam IIU with spam mails..let's be sensible and look at IIU as a whole. it's a Islamic university..what's wrong if it is insistin to have some identity? Chinese should show to the rest of Malaysians on how to be tolerant and wear the tudung as if it's part of the graduation gown.WYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16149881615500824835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-1130905900004674632005-11-02T12:31:00.000+08:002005-11-02T12:31:00.000+08:00I agree with you that just as one shouldn't force ...I agree with you that just as one shouldn't force a Muslim NOT to wear a tudung because of administrative reasons (like in Singapore), one shouldn't force a non-Muslim TO wear a tudung because of administrative reasons. I think one needs to be consistent here. I seem to recall that PAS was quite vocal in bashing the Singapore ruling. But sadly, it was and is not equally vocal on the IIU case. No wonder that PAS has not made inroads into the non-Muslim communityKian Minghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12615270889115130547noreply@blogger.com