tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post291662524309222167..comments2024-03-19T15:12:54.893+08:00Comments on EDUCATION IN MALAYSIA: Science & Maths in BM Again IIUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-16053249577505532742011-01-13T16:17:40.552+08:002011-01-13T16:17:40.552+08:00seriously looks like Malaysian teachers are afraid...seriously looks like Malaysian teachers are afraid of teaching English.. Oh my.. I can't imagine how will it be like when Malaysians communicate with foreigners... :< I'm a Form 3 student now, I know my I can't speak very fluent English yet,that's why I have to improve! Do more, learn more. Changing our subjects to BM so that all of the students can get A's in SPM isn't a right thing to do. It's meaningless that way. We should improve, not running away from English. International language is important, we have to communicate with the world outside. We can't be frogs under the well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-24160518123601903602009-08-24T14:43:50.077+08:002009-08-24T14:43:50.077+08:00be pleasure to visit my blog and announce to all f...be pleasure to visit my blog and announce to all form 5 student.<br /><br />tricon-ang.blogspot.comAnghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18433175597755568728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-1768942699086383092009-08-21T15:57:26.754+08:002009-08-21T15:57:26.754+08:00Science and Maths to be taught in English is bette...Science and Maths to be taught in English is better IMHO, but consider that teachers teaching quality in English in rural area, BM is not too bad.Mudahhttp://www.mudahproperty.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-49830329288720407032009-08-09T01:24:40.087+08:002009-08-09T01:24:40.087+08:00The advantage with using English for science or no...The advantage with using English for science or non-"Malaysian" subjets is the abundance of resources that are reader-friendly be online or in print. Malaysian textbooks are extremely dry, boring, academic and not child-friendly. While some teachers have left teaching to tuition schools, the consciencious ones struggle daily just to get the class of 30-40 restless teenagers under control. <br /><br />However many students there are who face problem learning in English, don't penalise others who can cope. Why can't we have bi-lingual option at the secondary level if students and parents request for Science and Maths in English, and schools have teachers who can handle? Don't make better education equate to private schools. Education is a fundamental right and every child should get the best towards achieving his dream. I was from a Chinese independent (secondary) school. My science and maths teachers conducted lessons in Chinese using English technical terms and we used English textbook and did tests in English. I also had a good English teacher who gave me sound foundation in grammar. It worked out fine for me and my classmates. I was able to choose whether to further education in a Chinese-speaking or English-speaking country. <br /><br />Why can't our students choose? why inhibit them if they and the respective schools can manage?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-17214573521975604102009-08-09T00:28:42.992+08:002009-08-09T00:28:42.992+08:00honestly, for those who are against PPSMI, i have ...honestly, for those who are against PPSMI, i have only one thing to say. never mind if you all want to condemn me or not. this is my true opinion, based o what dr. Mahathir said:<br /><br />WHY MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO CONDEMN PPSMI @ ETEMS ARE THE ONES WHO ARE ENGLISH EDUCATED AND CAN SPEAK ENGLISH FLUENTLY? DON'T YOU WANT YOUR CHILDREN/FUTURE GENERATIONS TO BE LIKE YOU ALL AS WELL? IT'S NOT THAT WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE THEM FORGET THEIR MOTHER TONGUE. BAHASA MELAYU, CHINESE AND TAMIL ARE STILL BEING TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS. THOSE ARE THE IMPORTANT SUBJECTS. ENGLISH, AS WE ALL KNOW IS THE INTERNATIONAL LANGUAGE WHEREBY THE WHOLE WORLD USE IT TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER. SO, PLEASE, DON'T CONDEMN WHAT TUN DR. MAHATHIR HAD DONE. HE'S NOT TRYING TO MAKE THE PEOPLE OF MALAYSIA LESS PATRIOTIC, BUT HE'S PREPARING THEM (INCLUDING ME) TO FACE THE FUTURE WHERE ENGLISH IS THE MAIN LANGUAGE TO COMMUNICATE. BUSINESS, POLITICS WITH OTHER NATIONS AND SO MUCH MORE ARE USING ENGLISH AS THE COMMUNICATIVE LANGUAGE. SO, PLEASE...<br /><br />ALSO, AS THE ARTICLE IN THE STAR HAD SAID: "WE ARE SPEAKING MANGLISH, NOT ENGLISH." WHY? THE "LA" & "LOR" ARE ALWAYS IN OUR ENGLISH SENTENCES. "BAH" IS ALSO PRESENT IN OUR DAILY CONVERSATION. WHICH IS WHY DR. MAHATHIR WANTS US TO IMPROVE OUR ENGLISH SO THAT WE WON'T USE "MANGLISH" WHEN WE SPEAK OR COMMUNICATE WITH FOREIGNERS AND TOURISTS FROM AROUND THE WORLD. HEY, EVEN THE FRENCH (FROM THOSE WHO I'VE TALKED TO) SPEAKS ENGLISH FLUENTLY, EVEN THOUGH THEIR FRENCH ACCENT IS STILL THERE. SO, WHY CAN'T WE BE LIKE THEM?<br /><br />SERIOUSLY, IT MAKES ME SAD. I WAS THE "GUINEA PIG" FOR THE PPSMI PROJECT, AND I GOT PERFECT RESULTS. TRUTHFULLY, STUDYING MATHS AND SCIENCE IN ENGLISH IS MUCH EASIER THAN IN MALAY. IN ENGLISH, IT IS MUCH EASIER TO UNDERSTAND SINCE THE TERMS USED ARE IN ENGLISH. SO, WHY CHANGE TO MOTHER TONGUE? MALAY LANGUAGE, CHINESE AND TAMIL FOR MATHS AND SCIENCE? MALAY, I CAN SAY IT'S OKAY BUT CHINESE AND TAMIL? THAT WOULD MAKE IT MUCH WORSE FOR OUR FUTURE GENERATION!Are-Peace Archiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15183698813410394894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-33716398481763251242009-08-06T15:49:58.172+08:002009-08-06T15:49:58.172+08:00Making English such a big deal really stinks.
It ...Making English such a big deal really stinks.<br /><br />It is just a tool. If we are serious about English, we should start immediately, everyone, together.<br /><br />Adults first, English training on the job! Night school, adult classes, whatever.<br /><br />Putting learning only to school children only is so 19th century. We need change, NOW!<br /><br />In schools, forget about the language first, emphasize on learning!<br /><br />Look at class sizes, library, textbooks, teacher training, method of instructions, ..all more important than this stupid English issue. Imagine we still have double session schools 52 years after Merdeka.<br /><br />Makes me sick that people are chasing their own tails running in circles.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-83806580311922978652009-08-02T19:28:26.022+08:002009-08-02T19:28:26.022+08:00Malaysians,
It has come to my attention that ther...Malaysians,<br /><br />It has come to my attention that there is an eminent subculture where the poorer and underprivileged people are unable to converse or write in English. Conversely, the people with upper class social standings are fluent in the language. <br /><br />Making this decision will turn the tables around, if it is not already turned now.<br /><br />I believe that this will further encourage the gap between the rich and the poor to be more evident. Basically, the poor gets poorer and the rich gets richer. <br /><br />Currently, Malaysia is living a substandard quality of life, which means that poor legal rights, poor education system, poor infrastructure and poor people. That will be your impending fate if the basic, fundamentals are not changed. The future of the country is through the young. What will happen when even our future leaders are not able to fluently speak English? Why are many governmental figures send their children overseas to study? It will be hard, almost impossible to achieve 1st world country status by the year 2020 this way. <br /><br />In my cry to Malaysians, open your eyes and save yourselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-55971682795008014532009-07-27T20:36:39.910+08:002009-07-27T20:36:39.910+08:00hi there my name is raj i was the first batch wher...hi there my name is raj i was the first batch where the English was brought in English and it gives a better understanding and it's useful as well cause when it comes a student's going higher level they will be taught in English why don't they begin it right now i would prefer science and English in mathematics and science tqUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11195009314065663532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-65926894731080948982009-07-21T11:56:08.656+08:002009-07-21T11:56:08.656+08:00We have many things go wrong in the Malaysian educ...We have many things go wrong in the Malaysian education system, but the biggest problem is the lack of accomodating different learning modes and language instructions allowed. <br /> The argument that all the kids should go through the same language and instruction process to attain unity is total nonsense. Look at EU. In a country, we should aim at developing the potential of every citizen and help them to be the best in what they do, so that we can compete as a country. The politicians and the self appointed self righteous have no right to ruin our kids' and country's future. <br /> Having multiple choice for the students and parents also reduces the impact of policy mistake by these people. <br /> I hope these people are not advocating that if one child is abused, we should abuse every child to make it fair, so that every one has the same experience to promote unity. <br /> Let the English school come back, let them compete with the Chinese, National and Tamil schools. If you are that good, you should be able to compete.<br /> I would support using the mother tongue in primary schools to teach science and math, but switch to English after primary school so that students have time to adjust. In a systems where different streams are allowed, we can decide on what is best for us and our kids. <br /><br />FrankAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-19925918954534057472009-07-21T02:25:53.150+08:002009-07-21T02:25:53.150+08:00this is one of the issues that i do not see eye to...this is one of the issues that i do not see eye to eye with DAP.<br /><br />1. teaching english in urban areas and BM in rural areas will only widen the gap between the rich and poor (assuming that english is superior, this is why people are advocating for English, isn't it?)<br /><br />2. while every one has the right to learn a subject in their preferred language, it is undoubtedly true that using the same language will actually HELP in uniting different ethnics. It will reduce one differentiating factor, but at other expenses. What I am trying to say is that this issue with teaching medium is not as clear-cut as other educational issues.<br /><br />3. teaching subjects in English still will not go well with Dong Zong. Chinese schools, will still advocate the use of Mandarin as the main medium of teaching.<br /><br />4. I disagree in seeing education for solely economical reasons.<br /><br />In reply to one of the selected comments from your facebook: No, it's impossible that Japan has better English education than us!shinlianghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16547059348411669522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-6134813232877986442009-07-20T12:48:53.213+08:002009-07-20T12:48:53.213+08:00As I mentioned before the failed policy are due to...As I mentioned before the failed policy are due to opposition from political parties and DAP is one of the MAIN CULPRITS and sections of PAS/UMNO/PKR included. <br /><br />As a teacher you can't teach in this condition of uncertainty, and the political parties should shoulder the blame and not start pointing fingers just to win votes (DAP statement in this blog is just an example of the finger pointing).<br /><br />In my point of view the education that is provided by the government must be EQUAL to all, either in rural or urban areas. Both in term of quality and quantity. <br /><br />If one require special treatment, then go to private schools.Amir Dinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06848481750570222644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-25220716627733189762009-07-20T11:11:06.239+08:002009-07-20T11:11:06.239+08:00PR, please ask them this:
Singapore has been usin...PR, please ask them this:<br /><br />Singapore has been using English for ALL subjects (minus Malay, Mandarin, Tamil, languages) since their education started.<br /><br />USA and UK are IMPORTING Singapore textbooks to use in their schools. Will this move to change our teaching every few years get us the same recognition by USA and UK?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-50717917805317891152009-07-16T11:19:32.884+08:002009-07-16T11:19:32.884+08:00It is no use we talk so much when no action is tak...It is no use we talk so much when no action is taken by you guys. We vote you guys to voice our predicaments in the Parliament.<br />Leave education to the schools/parents & children/PIBG to decide which language and 1Malaysia should give people options to choose.<br />Right now looks like their objective is to ask the urban schools to sacrifice for the rural schools for them to catch up and be at par with the urban sch.then they would switch again to English. Can the urban schools afford to make such sacrifice? Are we going to be suppress oppress and intimidated again for the next 50 yrs? Are we going be keep quiet again and let them ruin our education system and children's future again? Pls. protest b4 it is too late. Do not mix education with politics.Sure kaput one lah.<br />Education is under the jurisdiction of schools parents and children not the Ministers,they have no right to decide for the parents on what is best for our children. They should be more user friendly & people friendly by giving options and choices to the people.1Malaysia is supossed to be people friendly right?But it looks like it is not, it is in disguise and no more frindly after 100 days!it is more like 1Bahasa,1Bangsa,1Agama,1MakananHalal,1Sekolah,1Baju,1Kulitfication,1Policy,1Agenda,1Dictator(as we perceived it now)evanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-80759037621337833982009-07-16T08:19:40.811+08:002009-07-16T08:19:40.811+08:00Hey Tony,
You should learn from Hishammudin :p
...Hey Tony, <br /><br />You should learn from Hishammudin :p<br /><br />http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/7/16/nation/4326714<br /><br />"Hishammuddin said he had to personally look at each application before the decision whether to approve or not was made"<br /><br /><br />So hardworking...as if there's no functioning civil servants under him.Hishamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-24205179264134996462009-07-12T21:56:13.489+08:002009-07-12T21:56:13.489+08:00Kian Ming,
Think you have probably blogged on thi...Kian Ming,<br /><br />Think you have probably blogged on this issue countless times, but since now that a decision is finally out, think you should blog again on your views just to round this one up, now that Tony has done so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-23602991874378549562009-07-12T09:54:24.850+08:002009-07-12T09:54:24.850+08:00Sorry, I mean to say 'After thinking about it ...Sorry, I mean to say 'After thinking about it these pass few days, my anger is NOT so bad after all....'Marknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-83481218016364145442009-07-12T09:51:45.816+08:002009-07-12T09:51:45.816+08:00After thinking about it these my anger is so bad a...After thinking about it these my anger is so bad after all and I agree with you Simon. We have to move on and plan ahead for our kids. <br /><br />As we speak English at home, it will actually not really affect us. We could still buy science and maths books in english for our kids to read at home. <br /><br />In fact changing to BM will enhance us to be better in our national language. Presently the standard of BM lessons are set way too high to encourage any learning of BM.Marknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-90266624639373596062009-07-12T04:26:28.165+08:002009-07-12T04:26:28.165+08:00Whatever the decision made, it does not spell all ...Whatever the decision made, it does not spell all doom. Parents, forget about the episode if it's not going to bring about any change. Give that attention to the more deserving ones, your kids. You'd be surprised how much a bit of home schooling would help. I personally don't agree with such policy but better moving on than dwell on the issue. Your children will still make it in life with YOUR guidance & love.Simon Hnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-38432477923563929482009-07-12T01:14:46.732+08:002009-07-12T01:14:46.732+08:00To satisfy the minority, BN is going to get a whac...To satisfy the minority, BN is going to get a whacking from the majority.Satishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02310657654529428315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-80939296897154847642009-07-11T21:43:39.970+08:002009-07-11T21:43:39.970+08:00To Anon 8.05 pm
Just look carefully and scrutiniz...To Anon 8.05 pm<br /><br />Just look carefully and scrutinize Mr.Tony P's education credentials.<br /><br />Do you see the "Singapore factor" there that make him who he is right now?<br /><br />He is owned by "Puak Cina Kapitalis Singapura".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-12881393173637817762009-07-11T20:05:20.461+08:002009-07-11T20:05:20.461+08:00I must express my disappointment that the MP of my...I must express my disappointment that the MP of my area, PJ Utara has not taken decisive action on this core issue, our children's education. Blogging and stating his position is not enough. As an elected representative of an urban Msian community, he should walk the talk of representing us and take this up rigorously. Unfortunately DAP has also now remained pretty passive as the other PR alliance parties has chosen the same stand of using BM for maths and science. In many senses, DAP had become the MCA of BN, ie compromise for the sake of the alliance. I gave my vote to Mr Phua because I believed that he will fight to represent the community on the right things. I am not so sure now, he will perhaps have to get elected next time without my vote.Disappointednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-67501406595684542332009-07-11T01:32:33.448+08:002009-07-11T01:32:33.448+08:00In a world's economy dominated by capitalism, ...In a world's economy dominated by capitalism, one needs to know that in order to climb out and advance in social ladder, one must follow the Americans' way.<br /><br />Be good-looking or very pretty and sexy, charming, artistic talents or strong, muscular with athletic prowess, smooth talker with strong persuasion skill or having a sharp tongue and most importantly, be cunning.<br /><br />All the human's characteristics as mentioned above, are God's most precious blessings to humanity.<br /><br />One certainly does not need science and math in order to become successful in life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-4086324215662946642009-07-11T01:00:24.924+08:002009-07-11T01:00:24.924+08:00Why you have to change Maths and Science in BM? Is...Why you have to change Maths and Science in BM? Is it ok to teach these subjects in English? I think you made a BAD...... decition to make these subjects to BM, think our FUTURE....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-43352186159950500122009-07-10T14:16:57.481+08:002009-07-10T14:16:57.481+08:00In Malaysia we have a group of people who debate a...In Malaysia we have a group of people who debate and talk sensibly on every issue, education being one of them.<br />But do they carry any weight?<br /><br />You and I know that English is the way to go. You and I know that meritorcray is the way to go. But what can you and I do?<br /><br />Tony Pua, as a member of parliament, what can YOU do??<br /><br />Are we going to blog and comment in blogs for the next 10, 20 ways while our children waste their youth on educational policies that do not make them better equipped to excel in this world?<br /><br />What can you, my Member or Parliament do?? If you can't do anything, what do think I can do??? Can you imagine my despair?<br /><br />Do I have to send my children overseas like some people do? Break up the family (mother go overseas with kids, father stay behind to earn money) so that they get a progressive education? <br /><br />Please tell me, Mr MP!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-18056559031976046902009-07-10T12:05:50.489+08:002009-07-10T12:05:50.489+08:00Mr Pua, can you link this to your readers? http://...Mr Pua, can you link this to your readers? http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=9267&uid=111867330571#/group.php?gid=111867330571Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com