tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post77189915451805731..comments2024-03-11T14:23:19.494+08:00Comments on EDUCATION IN MALAYSIA: Reiterating my support for Dr. Azly and Dr. MutiaraUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-35443549392274915142007-08-27T10:58:00.000+08:002007-08-27T10:58:00.000+08:00he hehe!Well said to the above!Let us follow the g...he hehe!<BR/><BR/>Well said to the above!<BR/><BR/>Let us follow the good example of the old retired academician...'Learn From History'who used to comment regularly in this blog<BR/><BR/>He is wise, he has been through it and he dont talk non sense. He got his PhD while you are all floating in your mother's womb<BR/><BR/>As usual empty cans or half empty can makes most noise!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-62533830781367272482007-08-27T05:24:00.000+08:002007-08-27T05:24:00.000+08:00And what's this with neverending argument about "t...And what's this with neverending argument about "top universities" and who's longer and bigger and harder?<BR/><BR/>And more on look at me, I'm really a hotshot since I'm doing a PhD. <BR/><BR/>What are you guys? Idiots? There are so many PhDs and MDs, and other doctorates around. What's the big deal? The degrees mean nothing unless you contribute to knowledge AFTER you get your degrees, not brag until kingdom come BEFORE you even graduate. <BR/><BR/>Its really amusing so see so many clown argue day after day with which uni is better, from Taipei uni to UK to US, to UKM while no one discussed if any one of the potential student is any good?<BR/><BR/>If you're an idiot, you're an idiot. No uni can help you.<BR/><BR/>The rest of you, just get accepted into a uni, and do a good job and graduate for f^%$s sake. If you're in the middle of you studies now, whichever uni ur in, just shut the f^%$& up and finish you studies. <BR/><BR/>It's just so amusing to see problem students like Azly Rahman and likes to be the most vocal. This is like those drivers of Kancils in Bodohland - they need the loudest exhaust because they have the gradest delusion they have a fast car. Same bull here.<BR/><BR/>And those of you who're studying because they want degrees to brag (like KM and buddies) and to make money, guess what, you're not going anywhere in the real world. You can only be a local champ in Bodohland, and a Mr Zero in the real world.<BR/><BR/>Idiots.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-41507583970650959372007-08-26T22:25:00.000+08:002007-08-26T22:25:00.000+08:00Apologies for the typo.It's "multiple fronts".Apologies for the typo.<BR/><BR/>It's "multiple fronts".Say Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00201826880841157206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-41920574414726563662007-08-26T22:22:00.000+08:002007-08-26T22:22:00.000+08:00Thanks to the anonymous post above for the redirec...Thanks to the anonymous post above for the redirection. Apparently Dr. Azly has decided to stick it out on a single front at Malaysia-today-net, rather than engaging "the enemies" on muitlple fronts. A smart strategy no doubt.<BR/><BR/>But I do think the 2nd para on the same post is uncalled for. One doesn't have to belittle another to make a point.Say Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00201826880841157206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-67988658287672040422007-08-26T05:29:00.000+08:002007-08-26T05:29:00.000+08:00I think we are not going to hear from KM or Azly i...I think we are not going to hear from KM or Azly in this blog. KM is definitely on the same boat as Azly that's why he has the urge to support Azly.<BR/><BR/>KM is doing his PhD in his 40s, most likely to spend many more years trying to complete it, and more importantly, like to think of himself as a hot-shot when in reality is Mr Zero.<BR/><BR/>Azly is actively defending himself, albeit unsuccesfully, at http://malaysia-today.net/blog2006/azly.php?itemid=7356<BR/><BR/>Perhaps those with Qs can direct to <BR/>"Dr Azly Rahman" (boy I'm sick of this guy's "I love myself so much" attitude.<BR/><BR/>I think we should use this opportunity to ask him directly before he disappears.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-2190012762436512752007-08-24T12:11:00.000+08:002007-08-24T12:11:00.000+08:00KM,Why so quiet?We are waiting for your response!KM,<BR/>Why so quiet?<BR/><BR/>We are waiting for your response!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-90563165074874121332007-08-23T23:17:00.000+08:002007-08-23T23:17:00.000+08:00Academicians who are unwilling to sign the Aku Jan...Academicians who are unwilling to sign the Aku Janji letter can sign a separate declaration form provided by the Academic Staff Union. Basically the declaration form states that the undersigned is signing the Aku Janji not on voluntary basis and disagree to Aku Janji. In other words, the individual will sign two documents instead of one. First being the declaration form provided by the Academic Staff Union and the other is the Aku Janji form. THe declaration form is then submitted to the VC by the Academic Union. However, I am not sure if such declaration forms is available at UUM. Since most academicians disagree to Aku Janji, I believe the Academic Staff Union in IPTA would come up with something like the declaration form. <BR/><BR/>Hence, I am inclined to believe that Azly is using Aku Janji as an excuse to renege on his contract. <BR/><BR/>Aku Janji and returning to serve are two different issues. Azly should fulfil his scholarship contract by reporting to duty and then fight against Aku Janji later. Moreover the reasons given by Azly for not reporting back is more to do with how difficult his PhD was and not so much about Aku Janji. Besides, all PhD candidates have their own "horror" stories to tell...hence, are we all going to use that as a leverage to renege on a contract??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-84223198853616385962007-08-23T20:32:00.000+08:002007-08-23T20:32:00.000+08:00Haha, you guys all got pawned.The blog authors did...Haha, you guys all got pawned.<BR/><BR/>The blog authors didn't even respond and chose to continue with other posts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-53672039373973796502007-08-23T12:16:00.000+08:002007-08-23T12:16:00.000+08:00The contract would definitely have included a clau...The contract would definitely have included a clause which requires the student to:<BR/><BR/>Complete his studies successfully and return to serve the uni for a certain period (6 years, I gather).<BR/><BR/>Azly did not return to serve. He stayed on in the US, despite his mutiple scholarship extensions and delays. <BR/><BR/>He broke the contract. UUM fired his asss.<BR/><BR/>Aku janji has nothing to do with Azly's firing. Azly failed to report for duty. HE was fired.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-34540519226220137422007-08-23T11:31:00.000+08:002007-08-23T11:31:00.000+08:00I think Say Lee is right when he says that the pro...I think Say Lee is right when he says that the problem is different frames of reference. Kian Ming is comparing Azly Rahman to the typical person who breaks their bond with JPA; the commentors are comparing Azly Rahman to the typical person who never got aid from JPA.<BR/><BR/>I think that at the very least, Azly Rahman and his wife should repay their loans. They may have a good moral (but I doubt legal) ground for breaking their contracts, but that does not mean they have no moral obligation to repay the public money used to fund them. I am not entirely sure whether they were granted loans or a scholarship, but if they are not going to return to serve their bond, morally they ought to repay the money they received.<BR/><BR/>On another note, I'm just wondering - who broke the contract? Kian Ming says that UUM fired them, which would indicate that it is UUM who broke the contract, as, according to him, the akujanji was not part of the contract they signed (thus meaning their refusal to sign the akujanji did not repudiate the contract).John Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16316489754000191267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-57554884379571101112007-08-22T12:49:00.000+08:002007-08-22T12:49:00.000+08:00Knock! Knock! Knock!....Kian Ming, are you there?W...Knock! Knock! Knock!....<BR/><BR/>Kian Ming, are you there?<BR/><BR/>We are eagerly awaiting for your comments and rebuttals as you are the 'sworn in saviour' of Azly and Mutiara.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-17702995564033337732007-08-22T12:43:00.000+08:002007-08-22T12:43:00.000+08:00A senior colleague of mine (non-Malay) was sponsor...A senior colleague of mine (non-Malay) was sponsored by my University to do a PhD in US few years back. She finished in time and decided to stay there. She negotiated her contract, and all went well. And there must be many more cases as hers. <BR/>I also remembered many years ago a court case where JPA sued a student who failed to serve the government after being sponsored, in the end she lost and was asked to pay the government back, which she did in installments. This was way before Akujanji.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-8555532478992159142007-08-22T06:06:00.000+08:002007-08-22T06:06:00.000+08:00Dr. Azly,If you are reading these comments, please...Dr. Azly,<BR/><BR/>If you are reading these comments, please join us and provide your views. <BR/><BR/>It may help answer some queries raised on this topic. <BR/><BR/>Kiam Ming, please urge Dr Azly to join us so that we have his input.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-85911100572235091472007-08-22T02:30:00.000+08:002007-08-22T02:30:00.000+08:00For a guy who preaches morality and ethics, Azly d...For a guy who preaches morality and ethics, Azly does not walk the talk.<BR/><BR/>Azly benefited from a UUM scholarship until he finally graduated from the US.<BR/><BR/>He requested, and was give, at least 4 extensions to his scholarship until he finally completed his studies after 7 years. He should be grateful he got these extensions, let alone the scholarship in the first place.<BR/><BR/>But no, he continues to request for leave of absence despite taking longer than he should have to complete his studies. UUM said no.<BR/><BR/>At that point, Azly, if he was ethical, should have reported for duty at UUM. If he had a problem with aku janji, that could have been discussed while he was in UUM, in service. If he was fired after that, hell the whole country would be with him.<BR/><BR/>But instead, Azly, thinking he was a hot-shot decided to be his own boss and did what he wished. He stayed on in the US, perhaps with the notion that some Ivy league uni will beg him to work with them. <BR/><BR/>But things went wrong when he realized than in the US, with a doctorate, you're still a nobody unless you're realy good. He couldn't get a decent full-time faculty position anywhere, except adjunct and part time teaching stints. <BR/><BR/>But by then, he'd shot thunderbolts at UUM and its VC, and bad mouthed them in the media. He burned his bridges with them. Little by little, realizing he needed to come home in order to have a better qualit of life than what he was having, he decides to advocate his reappointment at UUM. But it's too late. UUM is not having it anymore with someone with no integrity like Azly.<BR/><BR/>Azly preaches that universities must be separated from political influences. Hiring, firing, promotions must not be politically motivated. But then, here he is now, using all the political fire-power he can find to bully his way back into UUM. He is using the ministry of education to support his return to UUM, and hoping that some political magic wand can be used to get his job back. <BR/><BR/>Hypocrite? Not just a hypocrite. <BR/>Using the words of the great George Costanza, "it is Azly, the lord of the hypocrites".<BR/><BR/>In the mean time his guarantors wait in fear and hope to an end to Azly's bullshit and self-admiring behavior.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-84558126397137864072007-08-21T12:44:00.000+08:002007-08-21T12:44:00.000+08:00As expected KM is very quiet on furthering this is...As expected KM is very quiet on furthering this issue! Come on KM put more salt in your argument...<BR/>I have no pity whatsoever for Azly and Mrs.<BR/>They looked for trouble themselves.<BR/>I only pity their guarantors who have to cough out the money<BR/>The score as of today on this issue:<BR/><BR/>KM still zer0<BR/>Anti Km: 200Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-79171406057985584272007-08-21T12:41:00.000+08:002007-08-21T12:41:00.000+08:00I do not read through KM's opinion.But, a contract...I do not read through KM's opinion.<BR/><BR/>But, a contract is a contract where the signer MUST obey all the rules stated inside the contract. If he think the contract is not right, why he still sign it?<BR/><BR/>Besides, once you borrow money from someone else, you should pay back in any mean according the rule set in the contract. I am quite pity about the guarantor. Many people wan to borrow money and go study oversea, after completed, then refuse to come back or serve bond.....well educated people..LOL.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-72346611651554383292007-08-21T10:57:00.000+08:002007-08-21T10:57:00.000+08:00As a lot of points raised by Kian Ming are based o...As a lot of points raised by Kian Ming are based on assumptions which may or may not be right.<BR/> <BR/>I guess Kian Ming should forward these two articles and comments to Azly and wife for them to answer or clarify about sinze they know the truth themselves the best. <BR/><BR/>I guess the public is equally as interested in this "private matter '' as suggested by Azly as the public matter "the Akujanji" <BR/><BR/>Since they are public sponsored, the issue becomes no longer private. The issue of the public sponsored students failed to honor the contract or pay back is equally as important as the Akujanji issue if not more. <BR/><BR/>Azly and co should elaborate furter rather than just harp on the Akujanji issue.亦凡https://www.blogger.com/profile/06893960750231057564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-5456194467826651292007-08-21T00:36:00.000+08:002007-08-21T00:36:00.000+08:00Hafiz,Sympathy for what?1) For getting a scholarsh...Hafiz,<BR/><BR/>Sympathy for what?<BR/><BR/>1) For getting a scholarship for thier studies?<BR/><BR/>2) For getting 4 extensions to their original scholarship, which were kindly extended by UUM<BR/><BR/>3) For not completing his thesis on time?<BR/><BR/>4) For refusing to come back after he benefited from tax payers money? <BR/><BR/>5) Started web blogs that bad mouthed UUM, which gave him the money in the first place, instead of negotiating like a gentlement that he claims he is?<BR/><BR/>6) For putting his two guarantors on the frontline to bear his debt of RM 1.25 mill?<BR/><BR/>For a man who preaches moral rights and philosophy, he is doing the total opposite.<BR/><BR/>He gave his word by signing a contract, which was funded by our money. The least he could do it to negotiate with UUM to find a solution, and not go on a rampage claiming AkuJanji is the culprit.<BR/><BR/>He should stop using aku janji as a smoke-screen to cover up for his lack of integrity. <BR/><BR/>Sympathy? Like is hard. We all go through hardship. This guy is the epitome of a regular local faculty member who's sent overseas that ends up wasting tax payers money.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-65998625112000546162007-08-20T20:41:00.000+08:002007-08-20T20:41:00.000+08:00Thx for the analogyDont get me wrong, I agree, eve...Thx for the analogy<BR/>Dont get me wrong, I agree, every debt, need to be paid back, no matter whats the circumstance.<BR/>Its just that some of the comments above dont even hv a tiny bit of sympathy towards those twoHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10485206329629077051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-71793300973640719892007-08-20T18:50:00.000+08:002007-08-20T18:50:00.000+08:00Imagine you are a trader, and take goods with a pr...Imagine you are a trader, and take goods with a promise to pay in the future. Then some calamity befall you, eg, the Kota Tinggi floods or the katrina typhoon. You lost your entire life's savings. And some loved ones were swept away by the floodwaters.<BR/><BR/>Would your creditors, whose goods you have taken on credit, so willingly forgive you, because you were able to list out all of the above "reasons"?<BR/><BR/>Of course not! Show me a person who says the creditors should forgive that poor debtor of the debt, and I will show you either an untruthful hypocrite or a person who has never lent any money that has become a bad debt.<BR/><BR/>So what happens in the above example? The debtor will have to ask for favours, ask for discount, ask for time. Maybe the creditor will be compassionate and give the requests due consideration. But no way if the debtor then starts to argue that all those things would not have happened but for the creditor not doing this or that; or that, merely because there was a flood, there is therefore some divine right bestowed on the debtor not to have to repay the debt.<BR/><BR/>People! Is that really so difficult to understand? Hafiz said "People will only understand when they are in those two shoes". Is there something else to understand, really. I would like to welcome Hafiz to the real world. Not the world of academia.<BR/><BR/>Hafiz and those who think alike, please begin to lend large sums of money to others, moneys that are hard-earned by you, then tell me you understand when your debtors ran away after throwing eggs at your face.<BR/><BR/>Yeah, lend me money, and I will pay you if you come to Timbuktoo on February the 29th at a minute just after midnight. What? You dont want to go there at that time? Come on, I want to pay you, so please dont make it hard for me to pay you! Jeez. What a novel argument! Please dont take any sholarship yourself, Hafiz.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-30146594668958904822007-08-20T18:46:00.000+08:002007-08-20T18:46:00.000+08:00Its about contract. Other issues are secondary!Its about contract. Other issues are secondary!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-81483975110530048752007-08-20T17:20:00.000+08:002007-08-20T17:20:00.000+08:00People will only undertsand when they are in those...People will only undertsand when they are in those two shoes. <BR/>Bear in mind, its not that those two dont want to contribute back, but they make it hard for them to...Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10485206329629077051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-14022199394039210042007-08-20T14:32:00.000+08:002007-08-20T14:32:00.000+08:00nope,For Dr Azly and others who broke their contra...nope,<BR/>For Dr Azly and others who broke their contract there shouldn't be nay excuse.<BR/><BR/>Like the rest of the ppl who studies during 1997-98 my livelihood is affected as well. However, its part and parcel of studying. <BR/><BR/>Just imagine how many can benefit from his RM1.25M. A new school can be build with that kind of money.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15082984363302195116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-46670335518492977002007-08-20T11:28:00.000+08:002007-08-20T11:28:00.000+08:00I stand corrected. His thesis was about Cyberjaya...I stand corrected. His thesis was about Cyberjaya not Putrajaya.<BR/>I just got thinking about counting articles at weblogs as publications. I never thought of that before. I wonder whether KM is doing the same. He must have written numerous articles here. Lim Kit Siang without a PhD must have written over 300 postings. We all read and made critical comments. So, that is peer review. Can or not? Can lah.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-61595863616949180952007-08-20T11:26:00.000+08:002007-08-20T11:26:00.000+08:00Dear KM,As much as I admire your passionate musing...Dear KM,<BR/><BR/>As much as I admire your passionate musing on these two academics....I must agree with the majority of the comments here...<BR/><BR/>A contract is a contract...<BR/><BR/>Sorry mate...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com