tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post113114463479538484..comments2024-03-21T20:10:28.943+08:00Comments on EDUCATION IN MALAYSIA: More foreign students in UM? Part IIUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-23885203879725314062012-05-02T12:45:39.824+08:002012-05-02T12:45:39.824+08:00Hi,
I am positing this here as it is relevant for...Hi,<br /><br />I am positing this here as it is relevant for a post-graduate foreign student looking for information about studying in Malaysia.<br /><br />------<br />While Malaysia is very good for tertiary studies, students have to be careful when they decide to pursue their MA or PhD there. The courses themselves are fine and are of very good quality. The problem lies with the theses. Nobody will think it is normal for a student to wait for more than 8-9 months to have the viva. Worse, it takes 3-4 months to get the certificate after that. All of this time, you will be forced to sit in Malaysia and drink Teh Tarik (a local tea) and wait while the examiners and the university take all the time in the world to get your thesis approved. This is not only happening to me but to countless other international MA and PhD students in Malaysia. <br /><br />No matter how hard you cry for help from the administration or even the rector, things will not change. The university will still consider it normal to take almost a year to process your thesis once you submit the final version for examination. Compare this to the fact that it takes only 1-2 month to get the viva in the US and UK. <br /><br />I am not discouraging you but if the Malaysian government does not want to be more efficient and recognize that MA and PhD students are not for granted, people should not go there for MAs and PhDs. I would have thought twice of doing my PhD in Malaysia if I knew that I had to wait that amount of time to get my PhD.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-30061293076314422352009-09-05T13:55:09.174+08:002009-09-05T13:55:09.174+08:00in my opinion i believe if UM or Malaysian Univers...in my opinion i believe if UM or Malaysian Universities take it for more International Students who are interesting to their Phd or underagraguate that they we can get more benefit i am local Malaysian i 've lot foreign stduents in UM , so why we dont agree what he said this issueAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-1131251452422587472005-11-06T12:30:00.000+08:002005-11-06T12:30:00.000+08:00It may not be Shafie intention, but he follows a d...It may not be Shafie intention, but he follows a dangerous trend in this country where the Malay-ruling class turns to foreigners first to address issues before they are willing to address it using local non-bumiputra resources.<BR/><BR/>The idea that MAS or other companies should hire a foreign managers before hiring a Chinese/Indian is the same as this idea of bringing in more foreigners before we let more Chinese/Indian in student population and faculty.<BR/><BR/>It goes to prove that the non-bumiputras are headed to third class citizenship if not already there mentally for many especially a key group of people with power. The ones that are hurt are not the elite non-bumiputras who have choices but rather those with the least and working the hardest.<BR/><BR/>Long time ago Dr. M replied flippantly that there are no-first class citizen in Malaysia meaning that everyone feel second-class in Malaysia. The truth is the the non-bumiputras are now heading to third class citizenship maybe even worst.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-1131245257837070192005-11-06T10:47:00.000+08:002005-11-06T10:47:00.000+08:00"i'm quite sure there'd be quota for the phD progr..."i'm quite sure there'd be quota for the phD program as well.the future, is bleak."<BR/><BR/>Even I am not UM I agree. These politicians are the guys who come up with the quota system in UM to begin with. Hence discrimination are all borned out of there. PhD in UM, smells fishy indeed. I am not going to believe mere words of what politicians said. I would prefer to see them doing it and doing it well.<BR/><BR/>"I also do not believe why would students who have 1st class uni in their home countries to come to local U for courses like engineering."<BR/><BR/>Yes you hit it again, if I am from USA why should I come to Malaysia. If I am from UK with so many options better than UM, why should I come. Even if I am from South America(which I have friends) I would still choose US or Europe. If I am from Indonesia, unless I have financial problem I would still rather choose Australia than UM. Unless of course those students actually bought what was advertise by UM.<BR/><BR/>As for local students especially the Chinese, do we actually get the real benefits? That is still left to be seen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-1131213210166679972005-11-06T01:53:00.000+08:002005-11-06T01:53:00.000+08:00being a UM student, i can imagine what these polit...being a UM student, i can imagine what these politicians meant by increasing the no. of international students. and i doubt the good of doing that except improving the THES score in future. i believe it's unlikely to be beneficial to our local students if the international students are mainly from the 3rd world countries.for example, in the medical faculty, we're flooded with international students-mostly sudanese, and indonesian.the students barely talk to them. I also do not believe why would students who have 1st class uni in their home countries to come to local U for courses like engineering. i'm quite sure there'd be quota for the phD program as well.the future, is bleak.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-1131197712744933302005-11-05T21:35:00.000+08:002005-11-05T21:35:00.000+08:00You must be more familiar than me that in order to...You must be more familiar than me that in order to secure any business partnership, it has to depend on what both sides have to offer. The Malaysian part? What can they offer? Tongkat ali? Kacip fatimah? Or just purely $$$?Howsyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08139939529988681903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-1131187957529925642005-11-05T18:52:00.000+08:002005-11-05T18:52:00.000+08:00"Shafie is wise to start at the post-graduate leve..."Shafie is wise to start at the post-graduate level since opening up places to foreigners at the undergraduate level will open up a huge can of worms and stir up great controversy."<BR/><BR/>Definitely. With so many deserving Malaysians even being denied their places into public universities (i'm one of the meany testimonies), there'd definitely be uproar and a lot of hoo-hah once they open up our universities to foreigners.<BR/><BR/>Instead of focusing on the international student intake, which accounts for only 5% of the total score, why can't they focus on improving the other more heavily weighed criteria?<BR/><BR/>One blunder after another. The latest of a string of classic examples of misplaced priorities.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com