tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post113370621748811651..comments2024-03-21T20:10:28.943+08:00Comments on EDUCATION IN MALAYSIA: Singaporeans Smarter Than Malaysians?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger62125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-47936328076604733732010-05-19T10:05:43.661+08:002010-05-19T10:05:43.661+08:00I have two daugthers, 3 and 4 years old.
Do I hav...I have two daugthers, 3 and 4 years old.<br /><br />Do I have to worry about their education? I can't afford to send them to private school. <br /><br />I may not able to send them to oversea "top" university without jeopardize my retirement.<br /><br />So.....Chong Kong Huihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02596866859197126141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-92068377722106065712010-04-28T01:42:37.583+08:002010-04-28T01:42:37.583+08:00It is very true that Malaysia's education syst...It is very true that Malaysia's education system level is very low .I've noticed that there used to be an English and Malay Medium previously but is no longer available because of Mahatir cancelling it ,moving all those whom are studying in the English Medium to the Malay Medium because there weren't many in the Malay Medium.<br /><br />For that information ,there were many of those who were in the English Medium and they were having good grades when they were studying every subject in English language .But due to the sudden change ,a big difference was made as alot of students started to get even worst grades than previously which is still what we currently having now .<br /><br />I don't really understand why are we learning about "Sejarah" so detailed of every single thing .We are wanting to get a bright future and history has nothing to do with it but act as a mere distraction in students studies .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-27967219893033785522009-12-04T10:45:39.600+08:002009-12-04T10:45:39.600+08:00Its very simple, we can't compare Malaysia wit...Its very simple, we can't compare Malaysia with Singapore because we're different. We're big country and they're very tiny country, so they can produce more quality people because they can afford it, but we can't because we have national policies (or Politicians) to protect.Malaysia Classifiedshttp://malaysiads.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-25478059735683196112009-06-04T16:46:49.713+08:002009-06-04T16:46:49.713+08:00Frankly speak, I'm personally work and experie...Frankly speak, I'm personally work and experience education scheme in Singapore. Their method of teaching is very difference compare to what we have locally. They more teach the ways how to analyze, brain-storm and even actively encourage students to ask more questions. Even through the question seem silly and stupid, but it does trigger another point of view, thoughts and new ideas on the subject teach. <br />What I trully find it interesting is that the ways they teach Mathematic is well different and efficent until President Obama himself does praise Singaporean teaching Math method and hope US able to use Singaporean method to practise in their own 'GIANT" United Stated education system.<br /><br />One question I would like to ask those politician & super rich man, why do you MUST paid huge amount of USD$ and send your son/daugther to private international schools? Why not local school? Then send them to oversea college/university? The answer is simple, oversea school or university provide good methods of teaching with good education exposure and recognition. Why oversea university is better than Malaysia? Why can't we adopt to similar education system as Western countries if it better than ours? <br /><br />I'm not here to said Singaporean is better than Malaysian. It just that the way Singaporean teach, system, government is well far look sighted compare to current Malaysian education system. We need to change to adapt changing world, if NOT in next generation, our Malaysian son will be totally left out from this new Knowledge world. <br /><br />One things I most scare is.. teaching English language is very important in this world. Either u all agree or not.. this is the fact. Without mastering English you definitely cannot go anyway if oppurtunity does arise but you are not qualify to grab it. <br /><br />One things I would like to highlighted here is.. change the current education system we have... Thinks globally as outside Malaysia..there are a lot of oppurtunities. The question is.. Are you ready to grab it or not? <br /><br />CHANGE BEFORE IT TOO LATE. Wake up Malaysian especially those politician in education ministry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-41445130594893788932009-05-14T06:28:00.000+08:002009-05-14T06:28:00.000+08:00An interesting post. Nevertheless, is it fair to j...An interesting post. Nevertheless, is it fair to judge intelligence based on enrolments to these universities? I am sorry, but that is truly an idiotic thing to do. A person must be intelligent, a genius if you wish to refer them as such, to be enrolled to Oxbridge and other Ivy League universities. I applaud their success - however to be trapped in this 'bubble' of snobbery is truly their loss. <br /><br />So are Singaporeans smarter than Malaysians? - is a very stupid question coming from an Oxford graduate such as yourself.thedivinekisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15517214080675431143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-71124398697297299362009-03-21T01:39:00.000+08:002009-03-21T01:39:00.000+08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-50021935792225202612009-02-23T00:33:00.000+08:002009-02-23T00:33:00.000+08:00Saya menjadi tenaga pengajar hampir 30 tahun di IP...Saya menjadi tenaga pengajar hampir 30 tahun di IPTA tetapi pujian selalu diterima daripada penilai luar tentang universiti di Malaysia. Bila pelajar Malaysia ke luar negara ada di antara mereka mendapat kedudukan yang baik daripada pelajar tempatan. ia bergantung kepada keupayaan individu jika mereka tidak malas. Kadangkala kita mengukur dari perspektif orang lain, kita dianggap negara ketiga kerana kita jadi pak turut apa yang Profesor MIT kata tentang sesuatu ilmu dan tidak mahu mewujudkan school of thought kita sendiri. Sebab itu bila orang China, Jepun dan Korea berhijrah ke Amerika menjadi tenaga pengajar di sana teori mereka diterima hanya kerana mereka sekarang profesor di universiti di US. Di Malaysia timbul stereotaip pelajar Singapura lebih baik, sesama pelajar Malaysia pula pelajar China lebih baik. Dengan pengalaman 30 tahun di IPTA, tanpa melakukan diskriminasi, tidak dinafikan ada satu atau dua pelajar bukan Melayu (Cina) yang dianggap mencapai tahap kelas pertama sama sahaja bilangan dengan pelajar Melayu. Pelajar yang lain sama sahaja keupayaannya, walhal yang masuk mempunyai kelayakan yang sama. Pendapat saya, pelajar paling lemah dalam IPTA ialah pelajar berketurunan India. Sesetengah pelajar banyak mengampu untuk mendapat markah yang tinggi. seorang pelajar di universiti saya selalu mendapat A dalam beberapa matapelajaran tetapi hanya mendapat B+ dalam subjek Matematik, sanggup memecah bilik pensyarah melalui siling dan mengubah markah tetapi berjaya di tahan pengawal keselamatan, akhirnya membunuh diri pada tahun 1990. Cuma perlu saya berpesan jangan perasan diri lebih hebat dari orang lain dan cuba tunjuk lagak, walhal pada hakikatnya hanya segelintir sahaja yang cemerlang. Pandangan saya berdasarkan bukti selama 30 tahun tanpa melakukan diskriminasi tetapi tak taulah kalau anda sendiri jika pergi ke Oxford atau Cambridge menjadi pelajar yang cemerlang.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-81690675265432435462008-12-19T16:02:00.000+08:002008-12-19T16:02:00.000+08:00It should be the system...my guess is singapore is...It should be the system...my guess is singapore is better at grooming talents towards an outward education (UK, US).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-26272115540161884912008-12-12T13:50:00.000+08:002008-12-12T13:50:00.000+08:00most of my friends don't even know that Africa has...most of my friends don't even know that Africa has many countries in it...they thought that Africa itself is a country...<BR/><BR/>Just a comment: THEN AGAIN HOW MANY STUPID KAMPUNG MALAYSIANS DONT EVEN KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN UK AND US??? haha come on lahhAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-65107307522963165052008-11-18T07:25:00.000+08:002008-11-18T07:25:00.000+08:00to the observer [9/18/2007 10:12:00 PM]...MY gov ...to the observer [9/18/2007 10:12:00 PM]...<BR/><BR/>MY gov spent billions of $$$$$ to build a F1 facility in Sepang (and continue to spend millions to maintain the facility) to host the F1 Race, while SG gov spent fraction of that $$$$$ MY gov spent on F1 Facility to host the F1 Race on their existing streets.<BR/><BR/>I say SG gov is smarter :-) <BR/><BR/>That being said, given same opportunity, both Malaysian and Singaporean will show that they are equally smart. How else explain SG gov regularly recruits malaysians to study, work and live in singapore (Another point proves that SG gov is smarter that MY gov) if we (malaysians) are not as smart as them??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-50482164638420581792008-11-14T15:55:00.000+08:002008-11-14T15:55:00.000+08:00This is such a stupid qn. I am a Singaporean...wai...This is such a stupid qn. <BR/>I am a Singaporean...waiting for O Level results...and right now I am searching if I can escape from the education system in SGP...main reason...I can't stand it.<BR/>We(singaporeans) maybe smarter in facts but not so much in life skills and general knowledge...and most of us our social skills are just rock bottom...most of my friends don't even know that Africa has many countries in it...they thought that Africa itself is a country...<BR/>The SGP government...well...do you want to know how they get the money???Taxes many many taxes...so many that most experts suggest that Singaporeans only can retire at the age of 65+++years old...<BR/>Where is the life ppl???And here I am a 16 yr old chid running away from that kind of future...I dun wanna work 24 07 just to live (I am a Singaporean staying in Malaysia...I know the difference more than anyone else)SINGAPOREANS ARE NOT SMARTER THAN MALAYSIANS THEY ARE EQUAL BUT SINGAPOREANS ARE MORE LIKE ROBOTS AND TOO SRAIGHT WITH NO OPEN-MINDEDNESS <BR/>AND yes I am talking about myself as well...which is why I am venturing abroad...=)<BR/><BR/>I also saw someone writing about the money factor...whoever said that Singaporeans are smarter than Malaysians just because Singaporeans earn more money...I think that peson is being illogical...<BR/>The standard of living in SGP in so much higher than in MAS what do you expect of course their pay would be higher..........Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-59535762952474740452008-10-10T00:25:00.000+08:002008-10-10T00:25:00.000+08:00Here is the simple answer to this post: 1. So many...Here is the simple answer to this post: <BR/><BR/>1. So many Malaysian kids are under exposed to enrolment procedures and existence of financial aid. They also have subpar guidance in terms of application procedures- most students still do not know how to apply for an Ivy due to the required SATs, academic transcripts etc. Some simply do not try, others put in applications below their potential level because of lack of guidance.<BR/><BR/>2. A large percentage of Malaysian parents are just not willing to spend large amounts on their childrens' education- over here the average family has 3 children, some have 11. In Singapore, it's almost always 1 child. Hence, in Singapore, parents lavish their time and effort tending to their children in "flower pots" ensuring their every move, their every school, their every exam brings them closer to an Ivy or Oxbridge. In Malaysia, getting into an Ivy or Oxbridge is less of a cultural goal. As a result, most Malaysian have more modest, short-reaching goals. They tend to think " My goal is 10 A1s for SPM and 4 As for STPM" and almost never "My goal economics at Harvard and then an investment banker at Goldman Sachs."<BR/><BR/>In reality, Malaysians if given a little more guidance population would thrive just as well if not better. Why do I say better? Because Malaysians are less spoon fed as Singaporeans. The Singaporeans appear in MASSES at top universities. Why? Their parents, teachers, schools, education system, EVERYONE groomed them for it. It is their national obesession. While Malaysians appear in smaller numbers at top unis, ultimately the very best of the Malaysian crop tend to climb higher than the top Singaporean in the bunch.<BR/><BR/>A friend of mine graduated with a double first in law from Cambridge. She ranked 5 out of 327 students in the entire law faculty- no Singaporean ranked in the top 10. She went on to Harvard for her masters. Next year, she will enter Cambridge for her PHD as a Gates scholar. Another aquaintance graduated of mine was one of about 5 students to graduate magna cum laude majoring in economics from Harvard. No Singaporean econs major there graduated Magna cum laude.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-42248295396754039652008-09-25T08:25:00.000+08:002008-09-25T08:25:00.000+08:00I personally believe the Singaporean higher educat...I personally believe the Singaporean higher educations are better than the Malaysian higher educations. NUS's collaboration with MIT, Municht Univ is one of a fine example.<BR/><BR/>However, Malaysian government has by far improved the Malaysian education in the past 20 years. Many have told you, but I'll say it again, it is not easy for a bigger nation like you. (I'm neither Malaysian nor Singaporean, by the way).<BR/><BR/>I have no clue however, in comparing the elementary, junior high, and high school levels between the two countries. But in my personal opinion, yes, Malaysia still needs to do a lot of homework in competing with Singapore. In addition to that, these lower level education is very crucial, as it provides the very foundation of critical thinking within common citizens.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-5303955742296598742008-09-16T23:36:00.000+08:002008-09-16T23:36:00.000+08:00Well obviously duh Malaysians are pea-brained crea...Well obviously duh Malaysians are pea-brained creatures who still have kampung-mentality.. even some of the uneducated people in Singapore will be smarter than Malaysians..trust me <BR/><BR/><BR/>MALAYSIA BODOHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-89687056497884591022008-09-14T08:40:00.000+08:002008-09-14T08:40:00.000+08:00It's absolutely fascinating to read this blog. Wha...It's absolutely fascinating to read this blog. What has not been said is the fact that every country struggles with the challenge of educating its young citizens. Both US and UK face problems with their respective educational systems. The discussion. so far, has focused on juxtapositioning elite colleges to Malaysia and Singapore colleges. Do note that such colleges remain the reserve of less than 5% of the American and British population. No studies have shown differences in the innate intelligence of different races. That said, intelligence comes in various forms and there is a tendency to value certain types of intelligence more than others. If so, we should be more concerned with promoting all forms of talent instead of relying on academic excellence as the sole criterion for success. There is very little evidence to support the view that the road to success has to be paved with top grades, which only measure one form of intelligence. It is far more valuable for a country to foster critical thinking.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-45112687782585684652008-08-02T23:07:00.000+08:002008-08-02T23:07:00.000+08:00This is great! Do you know this issue is being deb...This is great! Do you know this issue is being debated (for almost 3 years now) till the cows come home. Meanwhile a lot of muddy and murky water has flowed under the Malaysian bridge, and the cows are dying!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-14097635011636211572008-08-01T20:31:00.000+08:002008-08-01T20:31:00.000+08:00I'm a Malaysian but I'm not proud of the education...I'm a Malaysian but I'm not proud of the education system we have. I'm studying down south right now. And digest this: I took 3 days to study for the BM SPM paper (for practical purposes) and got A1. I think we have a SERIOUS case of grade inflation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-1911938721040204382008-07-28T20:20:00.000+08:002008-07-28T20:20:00.000+08:00Let me put it this way,there is no apparent eviden...Let me put it this way,there is no apparent evidence showing any nation smarter than another,but you can prove how this perception comes in first place,and in Malaysia,we have to bear this humiliation because we live in a very unfair world,leaded by stupid politicians with no definite loyalty to this nation itself but the wealths of this land,yes..another word is corruption and loopholes.<BR/>Its true Singaporeans doing very well in every field so far,back in days we are the ''tuan'' of singapore,we simply greater in the picture.Time and tides,thats the point.<BR/>Brilliant Malaysians being deserted and left alone in overseas to pursuit what they want,thats why this nation do have handful brilliants ,but this nation had owed them too much.<BR/>Look at the recent case.5As STPM couldnt admitted to UM mbbs course,what joke is that?<BR/>Aint first degree brain required for such hectic and mind blowing job,should idiots instead put in the place and considered first?no,apparently..Ans NUS act fast and brilliant,draining her into NUS,making another pseudo-Singaporean genius in making..whose fault is this?whose the one who still living in fog of mediocracy?think..we are better,we greater in all aspects,but if these fall into wrong hand,we are no better than zimbawee..Cibaikiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13692070301736611038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-33230551487678947502008-05-27T11:42:00.000+08:002008-05-27T11:42:00.000+08:00Common sense says, you are as smart as your most s...Common sense says, you are as smart as your most stupid citizen.<BR/><BR/>We have 6 times more clever people than Singapore, but they have migrated to Australia, US, UK, Canada, Singapore.<BR/><BR/>We have 6 times more idiots than Singapore. And they are still in our backyards and Kampungs. Yes I agree, we are more stupid than Singapore.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-69938763715490396422008-05-27T11:37:00.000+08:002008-05-27T11:37:00.000+08:00So many people are correct. The percentage of smar...So many people are correct. The percentage of smart people should be roughly the same in Singapore and our beloved Malaysia.<BR/><BR/>Since we have 6 times more population, we should have 6 times numerically in smart people produced in Malaysia.<BR/><BR/>But since it is by percentage, we also have 6 times more that idiots Singapore has.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-88769492279985307702008-04-15T11:44:00.000+08:002008-04-15T11:44:00.000+08:00There are a number of methods that can be employed...There are a number of methods that can be employed to test the assumption that Singaporeans are smarter than Malaysians. <BR/><BR/>To avoid confusion the simplest task is to obtain random average IQ scores from cohorts of two countries. <BR/><BR/>The trick here is to select people in similar proportions from all communities and also all demographics. <BR/><BR/>In the famous US "Bell curve" paper the authors demonstrated that Afro-Americans had a lower IQ than other Americans (Asians had the highest!). However the paper was flawed in that the bulk of afro-americans slected in the survey were from poorer sections of the society, many to able to read and write properly as they never finished school.<BR/><BR/>Had the study been repeated using the same income bracket i.e. IQ of people earning $100,000 per year I suspect the Africans would have identical IQ's.<BR/><BR/>The same applies in Malaysia and Singapore. If you compare apples with apples you should find the intellegence is the same. No point in comparing Singaporean professionals with Malay kampong people as the results will be terribly skewed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-79507373897746496262008-04-12T21:50:00.000+08:002008-04-12T21:50:00.000+08:00I have a son aged 3 years old. If I have the choic...I have a son aged 3 years old. If I have the choice, I will send him to Singapore U instead of Malaysia U simply because the par level of malaysia education is still far behind from international standard. Still remember MU ranking in 2007 ? <BR/><BR/>For me, as long as chinese, the IQ is about the same.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-68062734741035405342008-03-20T02:51:00.000+08:002008-03-20T02:51:00.000+08:00Who said Malaysian students are not smart? I know ...Who said Malaysian students are not smart? I know of a Malaysian student who scored very good results for the following:<BR/>1.1- 10A's in SPM, 2002;<BR/>1.2- 3A's in Cambridge A level, 2003;<BR/>1.3- Best student in Diploma in Law, 2006 at KDU, PJ;<BR/>1.4- 1st class honours in LLB, 2007 from Aberytwyths, Wales, UK;<BR/>1.5- Best Law Graduate in Wales, 2007;<BR/>1.6- First & Watts Prize for Audit & Assurance paper, Dec. 2007 ICAEW exam.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-87547050472394981982008-02-15T16:19:00.000+08:002008-02-15T16:19:00.000+08:00i think as malaysia have a bigger number of citize...i think as malaysia have a bigger number of citizens, malaysia do have a higher number in academics and good achievers. to judge better country solely based on the numbers of students study in top universities, it is unacceptable and vague.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-24123199014548913372008-02-13T12:30:00.000+08:002008-02-13T12:30:00.000+08:00Smart but stressful country. Quantity vs quality.H...Smart but stressful country. <BR/>Quantity vs quality.<BR/>How smart is that?<BR/><BR/>We can't measure 'smartness' base on that solely.<BR/><BR/>p/s: Whats wrong with number 2..??<BR/>Qoute from Morrie SchwartzAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com