tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post117016392870221358..comments2024-03-21T20:10:28.943+08:00Comments on EDUCATION IN MALAYSIA: Education in Australia: Declining Quality?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger174125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-15308767073041302142012-09-09T18:09:53.239+08:002012-09-09T18:09:53.239+08:00Tony said these 5years ago!!!
"Oh, and Tiara,...Tony said these 5years ago!!!<br />"Oh, and Tiara, I'll qualify my statement you quoted:<br /><br />Generally if in doubt, and if your concern is with academic quality, always pick the universities with the highest entry requirements. ;)"<br /><br />I only bumped into this page 5.5 years after it was published. I can agree 100% with what Tony said above, as well as Tony's observations in the article. <br /><br />Personally I work in a technology <br />company with a workforce of 500, and I know no less than 20 Australian graduates. If you're to add in my personal friends then I might have a sample of around 50 Australian graduates. Let me tell you one thing. Of the 20 in my company, only ONE is of the type who is real good in job, while the rest are good in throwing jargon, doing presentation, calling meetings with no solid knowledge on the job they are on. It keeps reminding me of Empty Tins Make the loudest Noise. While I know most of you who graduated from Australia will be pissed with me, maybe I'm sooooo unfortunate to bump into 19 bad apples out of a sample of 20... As one who replied to Tony said Malaysian like to see what they want to see, ditto for the empty tin cans who spent hundreds of thousands of their parents money and received SUB-STANDARD education... Sorry, fact is fact...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-73521703038258004032011-09-13T02:34:13.402+08:002011-09-13T02:34:13.402+08:00Hai all, Any of you heard about Kamal medical book...Hai all, Any of you heard about Kamal medical book supplies in kl.Mohamednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-80004140479133470062010-08-12T09:35:01.822+08:002010-08-12T09:35:01.822+08:00Everything is relative, I have studied higher educ...Everything is relative, I have studied higher education in Europe, Africa and in the U.S. In my opinion quality education comes down to little things like what teacher you have in that specific class. So it's hard to generalize on schools and what is quality education.Johnhttp://www.athlecation.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-49780811473449930672010-03-21T10:45:41.206+08:002010-03-21T10:45:41.206+08:00Top US varsities on Indian shores?
'INDIA'...Top US varsities on Indian shores?<br /><br />'INDIA's cabinet recently approved legislation that would allow foreign universities to open campuses in the country, paving the way for massive reform in the education system'.<br /><br />'The law will put before parliament shortly and could see famous universities such as Harvard, Yale and Oxford, which had previously established tie-ups, actually set up campuses in the country'. - AFP<br /><br />- source: The Star, Education, Sunday 21 March 2010<br /><br />Way to go India!!! India should encourage the US and the UK to set up more universities there. Here's to quality education!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-22946311847743670652010-03-20T10:28:29.614+08:002010-03-20T10:28:29.614+08:00Australian Foreign Minister Stephen Smith said &qu...Australian Foreign Minister Stephen Smith said "...growing questions over the integrity of Australia’s overseas education system".<br /><br />When their own Foreign Minister says that, then I rest my case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-11476741178695449352010-03-18T14:51:59.964+08:002010-03-18T14:51:59.964+08:00To Anon 6/14/2009, 3:41PM.
Agree with you, don...To Anon 6/14/2009, 3:41PM.<br /><br />Agree with you, don't be cheated by this people. <br /><br />Don't let anybody sweet talk you.<br /><br />Find out first. Talk to students who have been conned.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-20511608558154258602010-03-17T17:22:02.467+08:002010-03-17T17:22:02.467+08:00Aussie lecturers can be quite rude. Some can even ...Aussie lecturers can be quite rude. Some can even come of as racist.<br /><br />In contrast, American profs are laid back and appreciate the student's viewpoint. UK profs, while they are known to have a stiff upper lip, seem to be sincere.<br /><br />Let's face the facts, the Whites are good at everything they do, especially in the field of education. However, not all Whites are the same.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-49898583379097582822010-03-16T12:11:00.546+08:002010-03-16T12:11:00.546+08:00Is Australia safe for foreign students?
Here are ...Is Australia safe for foreign students?<br /><br />Here are excerpts from two newspapers on the issue -<br /><br />The Star, Malaysia – 11 March 2010<br /><br />Violence against Indian students has damaged Australia’s reputation and will lead to a drop in the number of foreign students, Foreign Minister Stephen Smith said.<br /><br />Smith on Tuesday said that a spate of violent attacks on Indian nationals, mostly in the southern city of Melbourne, had contributed to growing questions over the integrity of Australia’s overseas education system.<br /><br />Unscrupulous educational institutions luring Indian students to Australia with the promise of the chance to remain in the country had also contributed to the damage and would cause a drop in student arrivals, he said.<br /><br /><br />The Times of India – March 16 2010<br /><br />MELBOURNE: ``Please don't come to Australia.'' That was the message to Indians from Baljinder Singh, a 25-year-old student, who was discharged on Saturday, having survived a vicious assault earlier this week.<br /><br />`My advice to every Indian student now who wants to come to Australia is: please don't come. There's no life here,'' said Singh, who was robbed and stabbed in a Melbourne station on Monday.<br /><br />Kumar's friends and acquaintances have expressed concern over the attacks. ``Basically, we are not feeling safe in Australia, we are not feeling safe at all,'' one of them told the Herald Sun. <br /><br />Another Indian said: ``They told us that it is a multicultural country but after living here for three years, I will just say it is a multi-racist country.''<br /><br /><br />After reading these two articles and many others, I feel that Australia is not safe for foreign students. <br /><br />Here in Malaysia, we allow foreign universities to set up shop and give them money. Do you see how they treat foreigners in their own land?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-45839916825420039982009-09-10T21:15:34.133+08:002009-09-10T21:15:34.133+08:00If you haven't been into two different educati...If you haven't been into two different education systems on the same level. You don't have any idea on how others, such as canada, america & england, do to educate students on tertiary level. I've been to Aus and the states to experience how different they are. My answer is, the states require higher standard and they really control the quality. But Aussie's ones just can't control and ensure the quality, period.<br /><br />Persons from Aus can be good. But in general, from my work experience, they dun do as good as others from different english speaking countries.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-45147815381242053592009-06-30T20:48:51.481+08:002009-06-30T20:48:51.481+08:00Well-Wisher,
According 2 me the 50 percent pass m...Well-Wisher,<br /><br />According 2 me the 50 percent pass marks in Australia is very harsh. I have completed my year 10 from an Asian country which has its pass marks as 35 percent, but the questions which they ask are very competitive. All in all I feel that Aus. Uni's have become a money making business where they reduce the number of graduates who pass out. Whereas in my country though they ask tough questions, but they don't play with student's lifes by failing them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-91989344129975428062009-06-25T04:39:49.296+08:002009-06-25T04:39:49.296+08:00Can't really see the fuss of speaking good / p...Can't really see the fuss of speaking good / perfect english as long as one is capable of expression his/her thoughts soundly and articulately.<br /><br />Many european universities do not stress much on english language (German universities for instance more often than not conduct BSc. courses in German)yet, many of their graduates are higly competent. I have interacted with many Chinese students too and i reckon they are very competent. English is useful no doubt but it should not be the most important criteria when evaluating a student's / employee's capabilities.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-6378386143527717302009-06-14T15:41:44.977+08:002009-06-14T15:41:44.977+08:00The piece in the local media of Australian unis th...The piece in the local media of Australian unis that cheat their students from India is indeed valid and true. Get there find out you have been fleeced is very much mainstay of Australian education. One of my friends who did a program from a uni with the acronym Cari Student Universally got cheated and then extorted time after time again by the local agent. What is worse they only awarded their cronies the postgraduate degree who in turn teach at local unis. Personally, I dread to think the lack of ethical conduct by these graduates but then again it is up to Malaysian students to be vigilant and ask where their lecturers have been qualified from. Australian unis must be taught a lesson that they can't keep on extorting monies from their students who don't have the crony lineage. Secondly, some of them have gone round the world with substandard ethnographic approach to answering emails with racist undertones. It almost wrecks of havoc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-83247295582916113332009-06-08T15:09:06.879+08:002009-06-08T15:09:06.879+08:00Language is just a tool for communication. What ma...Language is just a tool for communication. What matters the most is the idea and skill, right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-49955803201198353822009-04-17T21:20:00.000+08:002009-04-17T21:20:00.000+08:00i would strongly discourage any1 from coming to au...i would strongly discourage any1 from coming to australian universities.i m not sure about the standard of english among international students but I would like to comment on the standard of teaching here. i m in unsw and it's all about self-study. most of the lectures are just not up to par. also i would say that most lecturers (those with Phd included) need pedagogical training.<br />if going overseas, it's imperative that u look for a uni thats good. if not its better to study locally than to pay high fees for mediocre education overseas. dont know about other unis in aus but from wat i heard all of them same same..most of them love to shrug it off as 'we are not spoonfeeding the students'.<br />i suggest that prospective students take a look at all the ranking for teaching quality when deciding which uni to go to. now that the pound is so much weaker, maybe it's better value for money to go to the UK. just my two cents. i m doing medicine btw.TheMessengerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05920350708245828381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-44759344567877940012009-02-11T16:20:00.000+08:002009-02-11T16:20:00.000+08:00Students studying abroad may not always be perfect...Students studying abroad may not always be perfect in English or whatever language they are studying in, but it must be said that it does give opportuinities in both contacts and cultural understanding that will count for the rest of their lives. And I don't think that they have a negative impact on the rest of the school for that matter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-8849594953301227702009-01-10T22:05:00.000+08:002009-01-10T22:05:00.000+08:00I think UNISA is stopping its programmes overseas ...I think UNISA is stopping its programmes overseas because it wants to focus "on becoming a research uni"... this is the decision of the new VC.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-49886770706959730722008-12-19T16:19:00.000+08:002008-12-19T16:19:00.000+08:00Bob Birrell of Monash University, “more than one-t...Bob Birrell of Monash University, “more than one-third of foreign students graduating from Australian universities, mainly Asians, have such poor English skills they should never have been admitted”.<BR/><BR/>If this is the case, then it is a pity. However, most of those who go to Australia are on a scholarships..and screener's are looking not just at english skills, but also, math, science etc. Education is not all about english skills, except when your degree is english journalism, literature etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-34038516518386684842008-12-09T08:18:00.000+08:002008-12-09T08:18:00.000+08:00Unisa is closing its master prog in comm at KDU PJ...Unisa is closing its master prog in comm at KDU PJ campus. What's going on la? Are these foreign and local counterparts just out to make quick money? I think the authorities should check on these colleges that run these programmes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-74038882468744612022008-09-03T05:48:00.000+08:002008-09-03T05:48:00.000+08:00My take away from this post is Malaysian are quite...My take away from this post is Malaysian are quite vocal, but again only behind the screen. Again, I cannot fall into the trap to generalize because we get to meet more unknown people who talk about all 'boundless' provocative issues online. I love the thought-provoking statements made by Tony, Tiara and Old Man. I don't deny the situation that is described in Australia, nor do I refute what's more important when it comes to success. After reading the entry and comments, people form different opinions, formulate new beliefs or probably affirm what they already have in mind. It's suicidal to narrow one's mindset just by reading a good entry. Expand what you already read and let your mind brings you beyond that. I wouldn't wish to see my own children to fall into such a trap and be shallow to deal with issues in life. It's an awe to meet people from the acclaimed GOOD universities but it is more of an admiration when someone who can take charge of situation, empowering people and yet stay grounded...Hello to all Malaysian :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-26036702908282057412008-08-20T09:35:00.000+08:002008-08-20T09:35:00.000+08:00Well, it doesn't matter from which uni that you gr...Well, it doesn't matter from which uni that you graduated from, but if you can't think properly, you're not good enough.<BR/><BR/>So what if one graduated from Harvard or other unis that some highly regard, eg Oxford or Cambridge, but they can't solve problems while others who graduated from UM or Aussie unis can? I've met a few.<BR/><BR/>Just because one graduated from Oxford doesnt mean he/she is good. Just because one graduated from UM doesn't mean he/she is not good. I can easily show you a few from 'not good' unis (eg UM) who is regarded as much more intelligent than those who are from Oxford/Cambridge. ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-60660273671030401332008-07-18T15:44:00.000+08:002008-07-18T15:44:00.000+08:00the purpose of languages is to communicate but not...the purpose of languages is to communicate but not to discriminate.<BR/><BR/>I was graduated from an Aussie University and studied in Harvard.<BR/><BR/>I think the main point is whether one can use the languages to communicate effectively or not. <BR/><BR/>Do you think people in the business world are patient enough to read through the shakes pears styled letters nowadays?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-73914076741291618092008-07-17T05:19:00.000+08:002008-07-17T05:19:00.000+08:00http://educationmalaysia.blogspot.com/2008/06/new-...http://educationmalaysia.blogspot.com/2008/06/new-ums-vc.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-20103569245560215132008-07-01T20:53:00.000+08:002008-07-01T20:53:00.000+08:00Well I think it depends on the university you are ...Well I think it depends on the university you are going through and also will depend on you...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-43280802089081947362008-06-19T22:15:00.000+08:002008-06-19T22:15:00.000+08:00With regard to the standard of english in the USA,...With regard to the standard of english in the USA, in the words of Professor Higgins in "My Fair Lady", "In America, they haven't used it (English) in years."Xenotzuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02041585169583184219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-41432689191711547622008-05-29T15:02:00.000+08:002008-05-29T15:02:00.000+08:00Everybody here is talking about which university i...Everybody here is talking about which university is the best in which part of the world but nobody really looks at it that the 2nd richest man in the world never graduated from Harvard nor did the richest man in Malaysia ever had a degree in the first place.<BR/><BR/>Having a degree only gets one to that first level (it gives the added edge if you are from a renowned/famous university) but it is the personality and core soft skills of an individual that will see through the survival of the fittest test.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com