tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post5936437485924756908..comments2024-03-21T20:10:28.943+08:00Comments on EDUCATION IN MALAYSIA: Jeffrey Sachs Mentioned by UM VC yet againUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-88151267439675129792007-04-07T12:39:00.000+08:002007-04-07T12:39:00.000+08:00Remember!VC Rafeah Salim is on a TWO YEAR CONTRACT...Remember!<BR/><BR/>VC Rafeah Salim is on a TWO YEAR CONTRACT with UM!<BR/>Of course now she has to beat the Gendang loud and clear and embark on her 'Chest beating!!' antiques so that hopefully she will have her contract further extended by one or two years more!<BR/><BR/>his sort of BANGSAWAN is often and regularly exhinbited in UM whenever a promotion or extension is in the offings!<BR/><BR/>The whole thing makes me laugh rolling on the floor!<BR/><BR/><BR/>But the best news of all is how a certain DVC of a public university tried justifying the reason to go to Geneva Gold Medal Give aways by posting a reply to KOSMOS newspaper!! Read about it in Star or Lim Kit Siang Blog<BR/><BR/>Of all the papers...he chose KOSMOS!<BR/>Wat a delightful joke!<BR/>It is as good as writing a letter to The SUN newspaper in Britain....<BR/><BR/>Ronnie Barker would love this!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-92230052624520608542007-04-05T18:56:00.000+08:002007-04-05T18:56:00.000+08:00I am Anon 4/05/2007 02:01:00 PM Anon 05:49:00 was...I am Anon 4/05/2007 02:01:00 PM <BR/><BR/>Anon 05:49:00 was certainly enlightening. Looks like everyone is part of the "show-off" community. Not that it should surprise Malaysians, as we are so used to emphasising style over substance. Jeff (dont mind if I call him "Jeff") will certainly rock us till we drop. Yeah!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-48195024369274461582007-04-05T17:49:00.000+08:002007-04-05T17:49:00.000+08:00Jeffrey Sachs is a bit of a MTV version of world o...Jeffrey Sachs is a bit of a MTV version of world of economics. Dr. Sach's MTV economist career really got first prominence when he was asked to consult on Eastern Europe economic restructuring after the Berlin Wall fell.<BR/><BR/>Those who don't remember, he was not much help but to be fair, the problems was beyond anyone else either. But that exposure put him in contact with many top government people in many countries and UN officials and his front-seat to what happened gave him material to write a bunch of stuff hat into some of the difficulties of developing economies.<BR/><BR/>Then came his book the "End of Poverty" and the anti-poverty crusade stuff.<BR/><BR/>So basically Sachs is no great academic intellectual in the tradition of Robert Merton, Joseph Stiglitz, Modigliani, Sharpe and other Nobel Prize winners and candidates. Being an MIT man myself, I have to vouch tht he is no slouch of course and a prolific writer. But seriously he is still mossly MTV economics which our UM lady VC seems enamoured.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-75718032074774923982007-04-05T14:17:00.000+08:002007-04-05T14:17:00.000+08:00What VC Rafiah Salim meant by "Now, mention his na...What VC Rafiah Salim meant by "Now, mention his name to any economist and they will drop when they hear it" is that Jeff Sachs used to hangout with Angelina Jolie and Bono Hewson and had appeared in the MTV channel...<BR/><BR/>I bet the VC must have been a great fan of the MTV... or maybe she juz happened to type the word 'economist' in youtube and found herself looking at all the results that got something to do with this Jeff Sachs guy...Who am I?https://www.blogger.com/profile/13022824300926197000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-37159004716415619792007-04-05T14:01:00.000+08:002007-04-05T14:01:00.000+08:00VC Rafiah Salim said, "Now, mention his name to an...VC Rafiah Salim said, "Now, mention his name to any economist and they will drop when they hear it". Now, this is real good stuff.<BR/><BR/>In the first place, I think the VC is boasting about our ability to throw that kind of money in all the six directions. My impression of that VC is that she likes to boast, starting with her boastfulness at the TV interview about how others extended and want to extend her contract some more, etc, etc. Her use of the language quoted above merely reinforces my views as it reveals a "show-off" mindset.<BR/><BR/>Back to her quote, there are 2 reasons, and only 2, why people would "drop". Firstly, I think she meant that people's jaws will drop, and not that anyone will, like, drop dead or faint (hope so, because if it is the latter she is referring to, she is certainly taking her boastfulness far too far).<BR/><BR/>As I said, before I digressed, the only 2 reasons are:<BR/><BR/>A) "Jeffery Who?" like in my case, never heard of him, or<BR/><BR/>B) "What in heavens name would he be doing at UM?", on the universal (excepting in Malaysia) understanding that it is as much a gross waste of resources as, say, engaging a postgraduate to teach pre-school kids the laws of supply and demand.<BR/><BR/>For goodness sake, invest the monies into new excellent local recruitment (putting aside the NEPs - No Essay Professors) so that UM can climb to, say, no. 50 in world rankings, THEN hire Jeffrey, whoever he is; only then would we prove to have the intellectual capacity to follow high-level philosophy and learn from it.<BR/><BR/>I do not think the foregoing simple logic is difficult to understand - just that we remain buttressed in the culture of quick fixes. The VC herself is a product of this culture; so, to be fair to her, what else can we expect?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-76380977799706571372007-04-05T10:49:00.000+08:002007-04-05T10:49:00.000+08:00Read in Star abt a senior university staff of 'pro...Read in Star abt a senior university staff of 'prominent university' being investigated bt ACA!!!!<BR/><BR/>Guess he must be one of the so called 'professor' Wat a shame!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-21263843676047123452007-04-05T08:44:00.000+08:002007-04-05T08:44:00.000+08:00...A retired Malay professor told me the most impo......A retired Malay professor told me the most important criteria for promotion is “how you get along with people”. He also told me if you are good, they will bring you down because if the universities have standards, then they cannot survive in their jobs. In his own words, more than 4/5 of the current university staff will never be able to get academic jobs in a real university...<BR/><BR/> http://malaysia-today.net/blog2006/letters.php?itemid=3626Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-83917983133428767562007-04-05T00:45:00.000+08:002007-04-05T00:45:00.000+08:00The anon estimate above is what Malaysia needs to ...The anon estimate above is what Malaysia needs to get used to paying well-known scientists. My estimate is about RM 750 K - 1 million for just a average prof from the US. If we convert David Lane's costs into RM, it would also be in the millions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-43022393719083784562007-04-05T00:44:00.000+08:002007-04-05T00:44:00.000+08:00I doubt having Jeff Sachs is a 'good catch'... he'...I doubt having Jeff Sachs is a 'good catch'... he's a professor at harvard ... but wat can he really do in UM? saying that he's a harvard professor for so and so years is lame ... i guess people don't know much about him in the first placeWho am I?https://www.blogger.com/profile/13022824300926197000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-38473248672023677242007-04-05T00:23:00.000+08:002007-04-05T00:23:00.000+08:00It would be great to have Jeffrey Sachs as the Ung...It would be great to have Jeffrey Sachs as the Ungku Aziz chair in UM. However, my only concern is how much participation will he be involved in the building up of the institution. It would be great even if he will be just act as a consultant. But how much our university will listen to his advice. I hope this will be the beginning of the local educators to learn from other overseas scholars. Hopefully this is not another symbolic action to create another false hope to our universities. In a similar scenario, David Lane, a well-known scientist, who joined the biopolis in Singapore has played a significant role in building up the sector. I hope Jeff Sachs will have the same effects as well.coleonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17469904971035590689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-53788110163493004332007-04-05T00:20:00.000+08:002007-04-05T00:20:00.000+08:00Kian Ming did a pretty good estimate of how much i...Kian Ming did a pretty good estimate of how much it would cost to bring him here, although I would use an annual salary of about US$350,000 now assuming generous salay increment (reportedly about $300 K in 2005). <BR/>If I were Jeffrey Sachs and to make the package attractive to me, I would use a typical US system of buying my time from Columbia and consider this as a research contract. Disclaimer: The following is just hypothetical estimates.<BR/><BR/>If you need to buy his time from Columbia, you have to add fringe benefits and them add overheads (assuming he still keeps his office and staff at Columbia; he would be insane to move lock, stock and barrel to Malaysia for good), you will end up paying as much as US$700,000 per year to Columbia. <BR/>That comes to about RM2.45 Million.<BR/>Then we can add the cost of accommodation and assistants of about RM700,000 like what Kian Ming estimated. <BR/>The final bill will be more than RM3 million a year, the high end of what Kian Ming estimated.<BR/>On the other hand, if he takes unpaid leave and paid entirely by Malaysia (highly unlikely), that would reduce the cost by about RM 1 million.<BR/>It never amazes me how overboard Malaysia can get when it decides to do something big. But that is good, because it becomes a precedent for future notable scientists and scholars to work in Malaysia even just for show only and to give local scholars at UM a chance to tumpang-tumpang as co-authors in his papers. Wow, that is Malaysia boleh. Pay others to do the research and we get the credit.<BR/>But wait, Jeffrey Sachs did take a symbolic salary of $1 as adviser to the United Nations Development Programme, so there is still hope for Malaysia to get him cheap. Not. <BR/>Oh one more thing...Jeffrey Sachs is also a celebrity speaker. So, now UM can send him around Malaysia to give talks and charge an outrageous fees for people to listen and shake his hand to recoup the money. Now, that is ingenius, right? Now, who wants to know how to eradicate poverty in Malaysia? Wait a minute..we need poverty to keep the NEP.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-60516793540687745162007-04-04T22:39:00.000+08:002007-04-04T22:39:00.000+08:00[off topic]where is this tony pua? busy campaignin...[off topic]<BR/><BR/>where is this tony pua? busy campaigning for machap by-election? din see him blog lately. luckily kian ming got something for me to read.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-56493745992254880312007-04-04T22:32:00.000+08:002007-04-04T22:32:00.000+08:00to fish: actually, i think the vc herself made a m...to fish: <BR/><BR/>actually, i think the vc herself made a mistake on quoting "Asia Pacific Research University Organisation". i'm only guessing that she meant the "Association Of Pacific Rim Universities". notice that they both have the same abbreviation- APRU. <BR/><BR/>if Association Of Pacific Rim Universities was what she meant, then it's valid because UM is indeed a member.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-25509941391721464212007-04-04T22:21:00.000+08:002007-04-04T22:21:00.000+08:00Why not e-mail Jeff Sachs directly and ask verific...Why not e-mail Jeff Sachs directly and ask verification whether he holds the Royal Ungku Aziz Chair of Poverty Studies, and what he sees his role is?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-56365495442578099222007-04-04T20:18:00.000+08:002007-04-04T20:18:00.000+08:00I checked on the achievements listed and the NST a...I checked on the achievements listed and the NST article. Oddly, the first two could be verified on the respective homepage of those organisations. Though the number of recognized architecture degree by RIBA is understated (2 from HK, a couple from India, Sri Lanka).<BR/><BR/>No info on Asia-Oceanic Top Universities League. No info on it either on NTU website (which was claimed as a member in the NST article) and again no info on Asia Pacific Research University Organisation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-68806569664344780782007-04-04T16:52:00.000+08:002007-04-04T16:52:00.000+08:00Sachs was a professor at Harvard for over 20 years...Sachs was a professor at Harvard for over 20 years, and later became a professor at another Ivy League university, Columbia. To have Sachs holding a chair at UM would indeed be a great catch.John Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16316489754000191267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-66301281939448439202007-04-04T11:13:00.000+08:002007-04-04T11:13:00.000+08:00What's so good about Jeff Sachs? I don't understan...What's so good about Jeff Sachs? I don't understand?Who am I?https://www.blogger.com/profile/13022824300926197000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12123329.post-48361213182380919092007-04-04T11:10:00.000+08:002007-04-04T11:10:00.000+08:00I can confirm the arrangement between UM and ICAEW...I can confirm the arrangement between UM and ICAEW. However, it's not a clear recognition: credit exemption, and UM will be working on various subjects. Here's the press release: http://www.icaew.com/index.cfm?route=146731dazzakohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04592486511831123180noreply@blogger.com